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Iron Council

Iron Council

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  • Author：China Miéville
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Summary

The third novel in his amazing imaginative sequence focused on the fabulous city of New Crobuzon and its very special world。

It is a time of revolts and revolutions， conflict and intrigue。 New Crobuzon is being ripped apart from without and within。 War with the shadowy city-state of Tesh and rioting on the streets at home are pushing the teeming metropolis to the brink。 In the midst of this turmoil， a mysterious masked figure spurs strange rebellion， while treachery and violence incubate in unexpected places。

In desperation， a small group of renegades escapes from the city and crosses strange and alien continents in the search for a lost hope， an undying legend。 In the blood and violence of New Crobuzon's most dangerous hour， there are whispers。。。

It is the time of the Iron Council。

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Reviews

Jordan ，

New Crobuzon is a fascinating place- I keep finding myself returning to it and enjoying the people and places in it。 Every one of the entries is wildly different and yet still very much part of the same 'story'。 Mr。 Mieville's politics certainly influence his writing。 It's not a detraction， but it is sometimes distracting。 I think this story is the most concept-piece type of story of the three， and thus the hardest to get into， but still quite good。 New Crobuzon is a fascinating place- I keep finding myself returning to it and enjoying the people and places in it。 Every one of the entries is wildly different and yet still very much part of the same 'story'。 Mr。 Mieville's politics certainly influence his writing。 It's not a detraction， but it is sometimes distracting。 I think this story is the most concept-piece type of story of the three， and thus the hardest to get into， but still quite good。 。。。more

Jilles ，

the Iron Council is coming。。。。

Joseph Caponi ，

China Miélville， as always， is bizarre and yet intriguing。 The New Crozbuzen series has some of the best fantasy world building I've ever seen， and it's an absolute treat to read about his world。 Their work is truly a hidden gem China Miélville， as always， is bizarre and yet intriguing。 The New Crozbuzen series has some of the best fantasy world building I've ever seen， and it's an absolute treat to read about his world。 Their work is truly a hidden gem 。。。more

Jorgo Kapow ，

Apocalypse FictionI have a thing for apocalypses， and have wallowed in the Fallout games and the Mad Max movies as much as anybody。 But I think we should rethink the genre of post-apocalypse fiction， which the afore mentioned examples tend to be classified under。 I think it might be more accurate to view post-apocalypse as a sub-genre of apocalypse fiction。 Stories in which The Apocalypse is the true protagonist。 Iron Council with its two forerunners is a great example of this。 While they are ac Apocalypse FictionI have a thing for apocalypses， and have wallowed in the Fallout games and the Mad Max movies as much as anybody。 But I think we should rethink the genre of post-apocalypse fiction， which the afore mentioned examples tend to be classified under。 I think it might be more accurate to view post-apocalypse as a sub-genre of apocalypse fiction。 Stories in which The Apocalypse is the true protagonist。 Iron Council with its two forerunners is a great example of this。 While they are actually written as a trilogy， the concluding novel stands perfectly on its own with the two other novels as great world-building companions。 Iron Council is the true master piece of the trilogy。 It rubs shoulders with other great works of apocalypse fiction such as The Cage of Souls by Adrian Tchaikovsky and the Book of the New Sun series by Gene Wolfe。 It is carried by melancholy and beauty and poetry and comments also on History and how we read it， with a stern look at the Great Men of History fallacy。 It also gives voice to the disenfranchised and outcast and voiceless with heartbreaking consequence。 This is no doubt my best read this year。 。。。more

Fiona ，

What an absolute trip this series is！ As usual with the Bas-Lag books， Iron Council stands alone; but I'd strongly recommend starting with the other two。 There's details of the world that come into play， and context that it would be a shame to miss。Perdido Street Station concentrated on New Crobuzon - The Scar took us completely outside of it。 Iron Council merges the two approaches， alternating between groups and locales， even times。 Mieville's always taken the tantalising approach with Bas-Lag What an absolute trip this series is！ As usual with the Bas-Lag books， Iron Council stands alone; but I'd strongly recommend starting with the other two。 There's details of the world that come into play， and context that it would be a shame to miss。Perdido Street Station concentrated on New Crobuzon - The Scar took us completely outside of it。 Iron Council merges the two approaches， alternating between groups and locales， even times。 Mieville's always taken the tantalising approach with Bas-Lag - what I wouldn't give for a David Attenborough or Steve Irwin style documentary somehow set there - and though we get to see a lot more this time， I still feel the sense of getting exactly as much of the picture as he wants。Whenever， wherever the setting took us， though， was almost immaterial， because this book heroes its characters even more than the previous entries did。 Not just the main characters either， but the people（/beings） who make up the communities of whichever setting was being visited at the time。 There's one particularly memorable scene of sound demons feeding on the newly-discovered rhythm of a train， only to have the railway crew feed them with a dance; it's just so inventive and so vivid in my mind's eye。 I'm so pleased I finally read this series。 Mieville has created something completely unique and important， writing the flaws of our own world large on his fantasy screen - letting his characters come together and show that it's the fight that matters more than the winning。 。。。more

Antti Värtö ，

Third Bas-Lag novel takes us to wilderness and badlands， but New Crobuzon is still the main milieu of the book。 Many years have passed since the first two books。 A ragtag group searches for their golemist friend， who is for his part searching the near-mythical Iron Council。 At the same time， civil unrest is brewing in the city。Miéville has created a grim steampunk fantasy world in this trilogy， but its never been as grim as in this book。 This is not a feel-good book。 The book has also assume pac Third Bas-Lag novel takes us to wilderness and badlands， but New Crobuzon is still the main milieu of the book。 Many years have passed since the first two books。 A ragtag group searches for their golemist friend， who is for his part searching the near-mythical Iron Council。 At the same time， civil unrest is brewing in the city。Miéville has created a grim steampunk fantasy world in this trilogy， but its never been as grim as in this book。 This is not a feel-good book。 The book has also assume pacing issues near the end and it suffers from the same kind of bloat as Perdido Street Station - there are perhaps 50 pages too much。But still - this is very good。 Miéville lets his creativity run wild in these books， but still the works feels entirely consistent。 。。。more

Poppy ，

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Jan vanTilburg ，

Quintessential story of revolt。 Its hopes。 The violence it invariably comes with。 Battle against the greed and brutality of the mighty。Told thru the eyes of three main protagonists。 Ori the man of action。 Fighting in the city。Cutter， the hesitant follower and Judah， the dreamer with incredible powers who is at the origins of the Iron Council。An urban warfare story and an origin story of a revolutionary mythical Council。 How they came to be and how they survived in a fantastical landscape。 And ev Quintessential story of revolt。 Its hopes。 The violence it invariably comes with。 Battle against the greed and brutality of the mighty。Told thru the eyes of three main protagonists。 Ori the man of action。 Fighting in the city。Cutter， the hesitant follower and Judah， the dreamer with incredible powers who is at the origins of the Iron Council。An urban warfare story and an origin story of a revolutionary mythical Council。 How they came to be and how they survived in a fantastical landscape。 And eventually how they came back to the city with the hope that: “。。。in going against the facts， they change them。” （p。514）。Revolution in fantasy land。Miéville is the Picasso of descriptions。 He gives the reader a fresh， surprising and original imagination of landscapes （city as well as nature）。 It’s vived and colorful。 And there is a lot of landscape in this novel。Liked the description of how the Iron Council came to be very much。 （anamnesis - The Perpetual Train）。 People can only be pushed that much and then something breaks。 To be made again into something new。 。。。more

Korey Mather ，

A cyberpunk western that explores the political inequalities of New Corbuzon and the surrounding rural areas。 New elements of Bas-lag further build this unique world and intertwine multiple genres into an exciting and unique story。

Michele Redman ，

Perdido Station was floating around bookcases here for years， having traveled to Machu Picchu from Rhode Island， returning to CT。 I finally read it， indulging in a world so fitting while the pandemic raged。 Followed with Scar。 Just finished Iron Council。 Yes， it's different from the first two， but the fantastical world， characters， events and ending are a great read。 Not sure what to read next by Mieville。 Perdido Station was floating around bookcases here for years， having traveled to Machu Picchu from Rhode Island， returning to CT。 I finally read it， indulging in a world so fitting while the pandemic raged。 Followed with Scar。 Just finished Iron Council。 Yes， it's different from the first two， but the fantastical world， characters， events and ending are a great read。 Not sure what to read next by Mieville。 。。。more

Oleksandr Zholud ，

This is the third volume of New Crobuzon trilogy。 Each volume was nominated for Hugo awards and therefore the trilogy was made into the group’s challenge for Q1 2021 at Hugo & Nebula Awards: Best Novels group。 This book was nominated for Hugo in 2005 and lost to Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell， coming up last out of five。 Upon nomination it fared better， getting enough nominations to finish third， beyond the eventual winner and Iron Sunrise。 The first book was set in the city， New Crobuzon; the se This is the third volume of New Crobuzon trilogy。 Each volume was nominated for Hugo awards and therefore the trilogy was made into the group’s challenge for Q1 2021 at Hugo & Nebula Awards: Best Novels group。 This book was nominated for Hugo in 2005 and lost to Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell， coming up last out of five。 Upon nomination it fared better， getting enough nominations to finish third， beyond the eventual winner and Iron Sunrise。 The first book was set in the city， New Crobuzon; the second was mostly a maritime adventure。 The third starts up with a small group of people traveling thru the jungle in order to find some man。 The route is hard and deadly but they persevere even despite losses。 Then the second plot line starts， in New Crobuzon about a man， who is fed up with inequalities and hatred in the city。 Then the third line starts， connected to the man from the first and his story is told， on the background of a great railroad building project across foreign lands， with no care about the natives or the workers。This volume is way more political that the first two – anticolonialism and social（-ist） revolution are the major themes。 As such it is much less an escapist reading which I desired at the moment， despite the novel per se is unquestionably very strong。 There is a clear homage to the Bolshevik coup of 1917， hardly surprising， bearing in mind that the author also wrote October: The Story of the Russian Revolution， and supposedly Spartacist uprising in 1919 Berlin。 Definitely， this is one of the most unusual and daring fantasy trilogies of the 2000s。 。。。more

Eric Waschak ，

Bas-Lag is awe-inspiring at every level。 The diction is pitch-perfect， and the world is chimera down to its magma （or marrow， each equally likely）。 I recently played a golem in a fantasy ttrpg， so Judah Low’s somaturgy was sheer delight。 Wasn’t as enamored with Cutter。

Adam Fairbairn ，

I was eager to begin Iron Council after having enjoyed Perdido Street Station， The Scar and the City and The City so much。 I thoroughly enjoy China Miéville's unpatronising and very imaginative writing style so Iron Council was highly anticipated。 Unfortunately， the plot was more meandering and it felt difficult to become attached to any of the characters like Isaa or Bellis from the other Bas-Lag novels。 Sometimes， with the author's writing， the plot really takes a while to get going but I was I was eager to begin Iron Council after having enjoyed Perdido Street Station， The Scar and the City and The City so much。 I thoroughly enjoy China Miéville's unpatronising and very imaginative writing style so Iron Council was highly anticipated。 Unfortunately， the plot was more meandering and it felt difficult to become attached to any of the characters like Isaa or Bellis from the other Bas-Lag novels。 Sometimes， with the author's writing， the plot really takes a while to get going but I was still waiting for this to happen late on into the book。 While reading， I was waiting for the next 'action' sequence within the book。 These parts have the best flow and coupled with the extraordinary setting and circumstances， these sections make the book hard to put down。 For example， there are battles involving conjured golems， which seem so natural within the universe and we see how much it dilapidates the conjurer but without them， their cause would be lost。 The action unfurls in a way that is akin to a Studio Ghibli production and I could imagine that the medium this book could be best replicated in would be as an anime。 The strange races and conjurations to a perpetual train where construction happens continuously， would be impressive to day the least。I would give this 3。5 stars if I could but just because I wasn't in to it Iron Council as much as Mieville's other works。 I cannot fault the writing style and the audacious scope of the novel。 I can't help but feel that reading the author's work usually enhances my vocabulary in one way or another。The journey is epic in a number of ways: for the journey of the transcontinental train， literally， the characters， in what they want to achieve （and how far they progress）， and for the underlying political movement that simmers through the book before climaxing toward the end。 。。。more

DrDay ，

What a frustrating book。 The first two books had their own excesses， but I accepted them， because the narrative was engaging， and the plot and the New Crobuzon world were pure Bizarro。 The Iron Council had its moments， and I liked the ending， but there were so many undeveloped characters， and flash bang moments that took you nowhere， that it kind of made me crazy。

Clint ，

For 17 years， I put off reading this， the third of the Bas-Lag novels。 Too many friends with opinions of， “meh， it’s CM， so it’s good， but it’s no Scar and certainly no Perdido Street Station”。 So finally， I read it。 I was sure this was a 3 star read until I nearly a third of it， and that was slow going。 Instead of chewing through it， I found 20， maybe 30 pages a day were enough。 But then， I stumbled into Judah Low’s back story。 That part， the longest section of the 500+ pages intrigued me。 I ri For 17 years， I put off reading this， the third of the Bas-Lag novels。 Too many friends with opinions of， “meh， it’s CM， so it’s good， but it’s no Scar and certainly no Perdido Street Station”。 So finally， I read it。 I was sure this was a 3 star read until I nearly a third of it， and that was slow going。 Instead of chewing through it， I found 20， maybe 30 pages a day were enough。 But then， I stumbled into Judah Low’s back story。 That part， the longest section of the 500+ pages intrigued me。 I ripped through that。 But then， the next part was back to a slow simmer。 That is my biggest complaint。 Parts of this novel were brilliant， perhaps with the politics of the Remade front and center， this was a better book than either PSS or The Scar。 But。。。。but it is missing some primal ingredients from its older Bal-Sag siblings。 Perdido Street Station I read twice， and am leaning towards a third re-read。 The Scar， I read once， but would not mind a second。 Iron Council。。。I’m glad I got around to it， but I’m good with one read。 In truth， I waffled between 3 or 4 stars。 It’s probably a victim of the no half-star rating system of Goodreads。 If I could， I would give it 3。5; since I can not， I shall say 4 stars。 。。。more

Sergio ，

Igual que los dos anteriores de Bas-Lag sigue siendo literatura fantástica de calidad y un estallido de imaginación pero me parece el peor de los tres libros。 No tiene la frescura de la presentación del trasfondo del primero ni la novedad de la ambientación ni la grandiosidad en todo lo que nos presentaba del segundo y aunque a mí particularmente no me molesta el activismo político de la trama sí que me parece que no se solapa adecuadamente con la narración， dejando un desarrollo más desdibujado Igual que los dos anteriores de Bas-Lag sigue siendo literatura fantástica de calidad y un estallido de imaginación pero me parece el peor de los tres libros。 No tiene la frescura de la presentación del trasfondo del primero ni la novedad de la ambientación ni la grandiosidad en todo lo que nos presentaba del segundo y aunque a mí particularmente no me molesta el activismo político de la trama sí que me parece que no se solapa adecuadamente con la narración， dejando un desarrollo más desdibujado de lo necesario y hasta pesado en algunos puntos。 。。。more

Emily ，

3 1/2 stars

Pablo ，

Hasta siempre BasLag :（

Francis X DuFour ，

Beautifully written， the author again displays his ability to describe the bizarre non-human phantasmagoric entities that populate this saga。 A rousing tale tale that doesn’t spare the violence against even the primary characters。

Scott ，

“A day is only an instant， drawn out” Sprawling epic steampunk fantasy。 An ambitious plan to build a railway across the continent。 A workers strike。 The engine is seized， and by continually laying new track in front of it as they rip up the tracks behind it， it disappears into the “cactopic stain” where the militia cannot pursue them。 Years go by and the workers who stole the train are mythologized as the “Iron Council” - a place where everyone is free and equal。 A revolt in the city by the Coll “A day is only an instant， drawn out” Sprawling epic steampunk fantasy。 An ambitious plan to build a railway across the continent。 A workers strike。 The engine is seized， and by continually laying new track in front of it as they rip up the tracks behind it， it disappears into the “cactopic stain” where the militia cannot pursue them。 Years go by and the workers who stole the train are mythologized as the “Iron Council” - a place where everyone is free and equal。 A revolt in the city by the Collective。 The iron council is found by the militia （on the other side of the continent） and makes a mad dash back to the city to help the revolutionaries。。。。 only by the time they get there， the revolution has been crushed。 The chapters about the formation of the iron council are great。 the “golems” and how Judah Low learned to make them。 Cutter。 Drogon the nomadic horseman “whisper smith”An-Hari， the former prostitute turned leader。 。。。more

Robert Swan ，

This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers。 To view it， click here。 A bit of a dissappointing ending， I could feel my hope building and my belief in their mission all the way - but maybe that's me buying into their folly。 Engaging and fun concept， as always from Mieville， great worldbuilding。 A bit of a dissappointing ending， I could feel my hope building and my belief in their mission all the way - but maybe that's me buying into their folly。 Engaging and fun concept， as always from Mieville， great worldbuilding。 。。。more

John ，

I loved parts and other parts really dragged for me。Large parts are a travelogue， skipping quickly across half the world either chasing or escaping something， and the time is rushed through， not giving time for character development or attachment。However， the flashback of the iron council was great though， as were parts of the new crobuzon storyline。 Ori's storyline was the only one that had character growth。 There is plenty of new weird magic and creatures， which I really liked。 The ending felt I loved parts and other parts really dragged for me。Large parts are a travelogue， skipping quickly across half the world either chasing or escaping something， and the time is rushed through， not giving time for character development or attachment。However， the flashback of the iron council was great though， as were parts of the new crobuzon storyline。 Ori's storyline was the only one that had character growth。 There is plenty of new weird magic and creatures， which I really liked。 The ending felt rushed， but also had about five different endings that all got short shrift。 I think it was by design， but it wasn't for me。 Definitely my least favourite of the Bas-lag books， but i did still enjoy it。 。。。more

Prerna ，

Iron Council， Mieville's most political work of fiction explores Marxist philosophy and views history through the lens of materialism。 It concretizes the concept of revolution by setting it on the filthy， war-torn， destructive grounds of New Crobuzon。With its many species， remades， renegade freemades， the militia and the parliament， New Crobuzon is immersed in economic inequalities， species and class based oppressions， police brutality， war， elitism and crime。 Its numerous factions are constantl Iron Council， Mieville's most political work of fiction explores Marxist philosophy and views history through the lens of materialism。 It concretizes the concept of revolution by setting it on the filthy， war-torn， destructive grounds of New Crobuzon。With its many species， remades， renegade freemades， the militia and the parliament， New Crobuzon is immersed in economic inequalities， species and class based oppressions， police brutality， war， elitism and crime。 Its numerous factions are constantly trying to fight or fit in with the friction between their real conditions of existence and the false images of the city and its well-being endorsed by the government。While meeting in secret and seditiously， many of the revolutionary vanguards plot the takeover of the city - drawing inspiration from the apocryphal Iron Council， a perpetual train of workers that fled the clutches of the New Crobuzon militia。I was certain that this would be one of my favourite books。 I love Mieville's writing and I am deeply interested in Marxist theory。 But most of the time I just felt lost and underwhelmed。 Mieville's strength lies in the indomitable gallantry of his protagonists。 While Iron Council's characters are interesting， their interactions and actions leave little room for character growth， some of their storylines almost seemed impossibly synthetic。 While trying to offer an extravagant view of history， Iron Council does not actually allow itself to flourish naturally。 。。。more

Larissa ，

It went a bit harder then other Mieville books， to many personalities， but nice setting and worldbuilding。

Arthur Duarte ，

This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers。 To view it， click here。 O trem é， enquanto espaço literário ou imagético， símbolo de transformação， progresso， movimento。 O trem segue em frente， assim como marcha a História， pensariam alguns。 Mas nem um trem não ruma em apenas uma direção。 Assim como a História， um trem pode ser entendido de diferentes formas。 E o final dessa obra deixa isso muito claro。Dos que li， esse é o livro mais abertamente político de China Miéville， o famoso autor de fantasia britânico。 Nele acompanhamos a trajetória de dois personagens: Ori， O trem é， enquanto espaço literário ou imagético， símbolo de transformação， progresso， movimento。 O trem segue em frente， assim como marcha a História， pensariam alguns。 Mas nem um trem não ruma em apenas uma direção。 Assim como a História， um trem pode ser entendido de diferentes formas。 E o final dessa obra deixa isso muito claro。Dos que li， esse é o livro mais abertamente político de China Miéville， o famoso autor de fantasia britânico。 Nele acompanhamos a trajetória de dois personagens: Ori， o militante de partido de esquerda que， cansado das discussões que não levam a lugar algum das dissidências políticas esquerdistas da megalópole mágica Nova Crobuzon， resolve se engajar em um dos grupos que buscam resgatar o legado do "bandido social" Jack Meio-Louva （Half-a-prayer） e combater os poderes dos conservadores que controlam sua cidade， com ajuda da Milícia fortemente armada; e Cutter， o jovem idealista que busca o Conselho de Ferro do título， um trem semi-mitológico que carrega a mais famosa experiência de autogoverno daquele mundo， junto de um grupo de aventureiros。 Mas será que Cutter busca isso pelo seu fervor revolucionário ou pelo amor à Judah Low， o famoso conjurador de golems e fundador do Conselho？ As duas narrativas vão aumentando de velocidade até tornarem-se vertiginosas。 E as ideias malucas e interessantíssimas de Miéville vão surgindo。 O que dizer de Qurabin， o monge do Momento que pode descobrir qualquer coisa， mas que para isso precisa perder outra em troca？ Além dos próprios golems e demais criaturas， sobretudo a dos momentos finais。Achei um dos melhores do autor， ne envolvi na leitura， vibrei e lamentei o destino de muitos personagens e， sobretudo， me impressionei com o fim。 Revolução é antes de tudo um conceito da física。 As rodas de um trem， movidas por seu motor， revolucionam。 A cena final， com a revolução permanente e eterna do trem é muito bonita， triste e chocante。 Causa esperança e desalento。 A revolução está chegando。 Mas pode também estar eternamente suspensa。 。。。more

SFHelmut ，

If only our West had been like this， it may not have been won， and we may have all been better off。

Vicki ，

So long， New Crobuzon！

Stephen Thomas ，

A bizarre train of thought3。5/5 • Once again Mieville displays his trademark creative and literary flair。 IRON COUNCIL brims with ideas， so much so in fact that it sometimes seems as though he’s struggling to cram them all in。 As with the other Bas-Lag novels， this is outlandish stuff。 And I love it for that。 Mieville has an imagination to die for。 He creates worlds that are mindboggling not only in their strangeness but it in their vividness。 His is a fertile mind， that’s for shizzle。 So why on A bizarre train of thought3。5/5 • Once again Mieville displays his trademark creative and literary flair。 IRON COUNCIL brims with ideas， so much so in fact that it sometimes seems as though he’s struggling to cram them all in。 As with the other Bas-Lag novels， this is outlandish stuff。 And I love it for that。 Mieville has an imagination to die for。 He creates worlds that are mindboggling not only in their strangeness but it in their vividness。 His is a fertile mind， that’s for shizzle。 So why only 3。5/5？ Well， when compared to The Scar， and Perdido Street Station， IRON COUNCIL has a less fulfilling story。 It just isn’t quite as compelling as it could be and feels rather ponderous at times。 Also， the two parallel storylines didn’t come together as effectively as I would have liked。 Don’t get me wrong: this isn’t a dull or bad story it’s just not up to Mieville’s usual standard （although it does have a rounded ending， unlike some of his other books）。 Good， but not his best。 。。。more

Eli ，

This book has magic， trains， and revolutionary labor politics in it， and really， what more could one ask？

Ivan Izo ，

New weird is the only genre this fits in。 It is definitely weird。 Although this one is rather long， I will read more， shorter， novels by Mieville。 Edit: 12 books later and I'm still thinking about this story。 I've added a star。 4/5。 New weird is the only genre this fits in。 It is definitely weird。 Although this one is rather long， I will read more， shorter， novels by Mieville。 Edit: 12 books later and I'm still thinking about this story。 I've added a star。 4/5。 。。。more

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